Scott Hardie | October 16, 2004
Three users already have new photographs of themselves submitted for the new site (November 1st). Who else wants to replace the photo they've been using for a long time? Email it to me if you have one.

Jackie Mason | October 16, 2004
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Lori Lancaster | October 17, 2004
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Erik Bates | October 22, 2004
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David Mitzman | October 22, 2004
I have already submitted, no more of me hiking on a mountain out in Tupper Lake, NY (I forget the name, it was in late 1999). Next is me at a bar, with booze, man am I a boozehound. Now it's time for the traditional boozehound yell: BREEEEEEEEW DOG!!! AROOOOOO!

Steve Dunn | October 22, 2004
Scott - I just poked around a bit and I really don't have another good picture to use. I'm always the one taking the pictures, so I have VERY few pictures of myself!!

Erik Bates | October 22, 2004
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Kris Weberg | October 22, 2004
Believe it or not, I literally own no photographs of myself. If it weren't for college ID cards, yearbooks, and the prom shot, I doubt my parents would have a visual record of my adolescence.

Lori Lancaster | October 22, 2004
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Scott Horowitz | October 22, 2004
I hate being photographed, is that horrible. Any picture of me is usually from some event. The picture of me on here is a pic of me in a tuxedo before my best friend's wedding.

John E Gunter | October 22, 2004
[quote]is it conceited when you're only stating a fact?[/quote]

LOL! I have a saying that's similar to that Lori, "It's not bragging if it's true!"

I saw that and thought, she's just too funny!

I'm also the one taking most of the pictures, so it's hard to find one that has just me in it. Got some of me and the dog, I'll see if I can find one that I can give you, though I have to say, I haven't really changed much since the other picture, so...

John

Scott Hardie | October 22, 2004
Lori: You're welcome to start a "Baby Pictures" discussion if you'd like, or something more like "Childhood Pictures." I'll post the photos people send, Assignment: South Park style.

Scott: It's not horrible. You're not alone. I thank you for sending a photo in anyway, and not doing what some people do, which is send in a distorted, Photoshopped image so their faces can't be seen. What's the point?

John: You still have a ponytail? Then again, you seem to have a different arrangement of facial hair every month lately, so it might be hard to keep up. (I said I was going to stop teasing, but it's not teasing if it's true!)

Lori Lancaster | October 22, 2004
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Scott Horowitz | October 22, 2004
Lori, remind me to never let you take a picture of me (well considering we've never met, I doubt that would be a problem) hehehehe. For the wedding I was in the tuxedo for, I hated being in every freakin' picture. I hate being told how to stand, when to smile, etc. In my opinion, the best shots are the spontaneous ones. In a wedding, all smiles are forced and it makes the pictures look shitty.

Lori Lancaster | October 22, 2004
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John E Gunter | October 22, 2004
Well Scott, considering how fast I can grow my facial hair, it's easy to change my beard/mustache! Oh and you can hardly see the pony tail in that picture. Though I am considering growing my hair long again. Only problem with that is it'll kill me moneywise to get it streaked!

I'm also one who does the quick take a snap shot photos more than I do the now pose just so, etc.

I want to pick up one of the good digital cameras, but don't have the extra grand right now to buy one. Hopefully by this time next year, I'll have a nice one.

John

Amy Austin | October 22, 2004
John -- I had not, indeed, even noticed the pony 'til now! HA!

Lori -- Cool, another photographer here! That's what I did for the Navy, BTW... Have thought about doing weddings, but not sure. And sometimes, Scott, you do have to be bossy for a good group shot -- but you're right... the best ones are usually spontaneous and unscripted. Often, the hardest part of my job was to either to get people to even *let* me take their picture or to get them to stop acting like a bunch of fruity Christmas hams -- for the sake of documentation! I found that the best solution in the second case would be to just let them act out for a while (sometimes only *pretending* to shoot if I was using film!) and then the good pics would usually follow... ;D

John E Gunter | October 22, 2004
You have quite a few photographers here, even a cinematographer or two.

Though all my photos were for school or personal use, never worked as a professional as far as photography is concerned, but I have worked in the film industry. Just never was in long enough to get behind a camera other than film school.

If you want to see the full version of that picture, go here.

John

Amy Austin | October 22, 2004
hehehe -- what's the cute little rodent on your knee? I can't tell if he's a rabbit, or what, from the front... I like the full version -- cute!

Amy Austin | October 22, 2004
Since I'm only just now noticing John's ponytail, and I had figured that Scott was in just in an ordinary black suit (salesman of the month, maybe?), I have looked a little more carefully to see what other observations I was failing to make... and now a question for Jackie: is your hair two-toned -- black bangs & blond hair? Because my immediate "observation" was that you were perhaps in costume and that you had something with feathers on your head -- a hat/headress... something period like a showgirl or WWII era! heeheehee... but I should have figured otherwise! It just goes to show you that even a person who thinks herself "smart" & "observant" can still be a retard!!!

Scott Horowitz | October 22, 2004
I'm not in a suit, I am wearing a tuxedo for a wedding.

Amy Austin | October 22, 2004
I read that, Scott -- I was illustrating my bad observations. Here, I'll edit it better...

Scott Horowitz | October 22, 2004
Sorry, didn't remember if I mentioned it or not..... haven't been sleeping much lately. Though,, if it makes you feel better, I was salesman of the month once back in my selling days.

Amy Austin | October 22, 2004
HA! Yeah, I do feel better now... ;>

Anna Gregoline | October 22, 2004
If you click the photo you can see it full-sized.

Scott Horowitz | October 22, 2004
Though, if you want to see a real amusing picture of me (I can't believe I am doing this, Mitz is never going to let me live this one down) look here

This picture will ruin any chance of me ever having a political campaign, as will comments I have made on this board.

Also, Amy, you've made over 100 posts in just a few days... impressive.

Anna Gregoline | October 22, 2004
What. the. heck. are. you. doing. in. that. picture.

Impressive? I'd say obsessive. Of course, I would know.

Scott Horowitz | October 22, 2004
It was for the holiday festival in college... I was dressed up as a giant dreidel. One of my more embarrasing moments, the worst is when it got around my office and one girl had it as her background for a few days.

John E Gunter | October 22, 2004
The rodent on my knee is a prairie dog. We used to have 4, but one of them broke his teeth and even though we took really good care of him, including feeding him with a suring, he passed away about 1 year ago.

He was 4, which for a while prairie dog, is ancient. Tame ones can live much longer, but we took really good care of him. Reason why I know this, is that we had gerbals for a while, and when they finally began to die off, at 5 years old, I called a pet store to try and figure out if they had gotten sick, but the pet store told me that gerbals only live for around 4 years, so having them live an extra year, made me feel good. Meant I was taking really good care of my animals.

Anyway, we only have 3 now and I'm not sure I'll be getting anymore as they are no longer being sold in my area. The Dept of Agg has made it almost impossible for store owners to sell them. But it's ok, I don't really like getting attached to them and then having them die too soon after that.

John

Anna Gregoline | October 22, 2004
I love prairie dogs and gerbils! You are so lucky.

John E Gunter | October 22, 2004
Except for all the damage the little monsters have done to the house. I've got 1 carpet in a room to replace because they dug it up. I've got 2 doors to replace because they chewed the bottoms and I've replace 1 couch and 2 coffee tables due to their chewing. Not to mention the electric and computer cords I've had to either patch or replace.

But beyond that nasty little habit, I love em. Thanks Anna.

John

Anna Gregoline | October 22, 2004
They gotta, their teeth start bugging them and they gotta chew! I can't wait till I have a ton of pets.

Amy Austin | October 22, 2004
Thanks, Scott -- I never thought my ability to run my mouth would be "impressive"... but thanks to Anna for setting the record straight and mentioning the photo tip. I wonder if John knew that.

As for your silly pic, Scott -- I think it would make a great avatar! (And I'd still listen to your political thoughts...)

Amy Austin | October 22, 2004
Wow -- so many posts while I took a phone call!

I should have recognized your dog, John, but I didn't know people could keep them as pets (and I didn't know they were so little, either!) -- and I know what you mean about attachment... my dog (canine) is getting up there in years (about 8), and I know that it will break my heart when the time comes. She is a bundle o' love!

And now one more thing for Scott...

"Dreidel, dreidel, dreidel -- I made you out of clay..."

John E Gunter | October 22, 2004
Actually, I knew that about the picture, I was trying to pimp my website but trying to be sly about it. :-)

Usually, I put it in my sig somewhere, but I don't post a sig on this site.

John

Amy Austin | October 22, 2004
I figured as much, John, but that's okay -- pimp away... I was giving you cred for being sly... ;>

Amy Austin | October 22, 2004
It takes a person of strong character to remain subtle, knowing how few people will receive your subtlety. I try -- it's hard... but God knows, I do *try*!

Lori Lancaster | October 23, 2004
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John E Gunter | October 25, 2004
Actually, the majority of the photos for my recently visited are stored on my site, so I guess you could say I'm plugging it everytime I post. :-P

John

Jackie Mason | October 30, 2004
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Erik Bates | October 31, 2004
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Scott Hardie | November 1, 2004
My thanks to the following people for submitting new photos:

Anthony - (link)

Amy - (link)

Denise - (link)

Kevin - (link)

Todd - (link)

Dave - (link)

Jackie - (link)

Jackie Mason | November 2, 2004
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Scott Hardie | November 2, 2004
Just because the site is published doesn't mean the photo call is closed. Keep 'em comin', folks.

Anna Gregoline | November 2, 2004
I am thinking about putting a new picture up, but I don't have a good one so I have to take another one. I don't like how I look lately though.

Jackie, you look totally different than my previous perception of you and it's freaking me out. Perhaps we all should change our pics more regularly.

Scott Hardie | November 2, 2004
I agree. Maybe we should have multiple photos on the site, with one official icon and an assorted few others in some kind of gallery on each user's page? Not too hard to program.

I don't care for my own new photo. It displays my two least favorite facial features, the double chin and (thankfully not too visibly) the drooping eyelid. I'd take the old one any day, but two years is long enough to have the same photo. If I get a new digital camera soon (no piece-of-crap store brand like the last one), I'll take pictures of myself and change them more regularly. I agree that we should all do that when we can.

Scott Hardie | November 2, 2004
Are bigger user icons a good thing? I like having a closer view of each author's face; it feels like I'm sensing your presence better that way. Plus I finally learned how to use fucking anti-aliasing, so there's another obstacle overcome.

Lori Lancaster | November 2, 2004
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John E Gunter | November 2, 2004
Well Scott, I intend to update the player pictures for my website. After all, I have 2 new players to take pictures of, so I might as well get new pictures of everyone. It will probably happen at a future Wizard Quest night, so I’ll make sure to warn everyone that it’s picture night. Course, I might wait till after the game starts so I can get the right look of frustration from all of the players. LOL!

Anyway, I’ll see if I can find another one of me that I like. Biggest problem is my wife is usually in the picture with me whenever I get one taken of me.

I do like the larger picture that goes along with the posts.

John

Amy Austin | November 2, 2004
The larger pics are good and bad -- they are good for exactly the point you made, Scott -- I do feel more "presence" from the other people here... but of course -- having had no real previous presence myself! -- I'm also now a little freaked by my own big heed [sic]!!! ;D

Like Anna, I was also a bit surprised by some of the differences, which caused me to wonder about randomly generated avatars from a handful of submissions by everybody... I know *nothing* about programming (unless you want to count my initial classes in the days of "GOTO" & "RUN" -- LOLOLOL), so no idea on the feasibility of such a concept, but that was my thought.

SO... thought I bore a resemblance to my previous icon, did you, Lori? ;>

Yeah, I'm not sure what I was imagining Todd to be, either, but it wasn't Super Orangutan Guy!!! (I thought it was cute, though... "OG")

Todd Brotsch | November 2, 2004
hehehe

Took that picture at the Columbus Zoo, my friends saw it and demanded that a picture be taken. Figure it displays my height well. Though today I don't have the beard anymore. So picture that, but just with a little less hair.

Amy Austin | November 2, 2004
Yeah, it's better that you had it for the pic, OG! ;D

Scott Horowitz | November 2, 2004
Picture an orangutan with less hair and that's you? Who's the guy in the hat blocking your picture Todd? hehehe, jk I'm looking for a better picture, but alas, I don't think I photograph well. I have this one friend who is really ugly in real life, but she looks great in photos. It's so weird.

Amy Austin | November 2, 2004
Not so weird... disturbingly common, actually -- and vice versa, too. They say pictures don't lie, but they can sure as hell tell half-truths!!!

It's funny, you know, but you may not think that the "supermodels" are so beautiful if you see them in person -- they simply have the best bone structure and features for the cameras and runway. I've known a couple of females who weren't really all that great-looking in my opinion, but they sure were photogenic for just that reason. It's all about the reflection of light waves...

Mike Eberhart | November 2, 2004
Scott, I'll try to get you an updated picture either late today or tomorrow.

Todd Brotsch | November 2, 2004
Thanks Scott.....


I'm putting you on my list.

Scott Horowitz | November 2, 2004
Your list???? Now my interest has been peaked.

Todd Brotsch | November 2, 2004
Not a good place to be.....

Mike Eberhart | November 3, 2004
Ahh, I see that Scott got my new picture up already. He's sure fast with that. Anyway, I have a little more gray in my hair than I did a couple of years ago...

Anna Gregoline | November 3, 2004
Oh, I like that one, Mike! You look a lot friendlier. =)

Mike Eberhart | November 3, 2004
Thanks. If you click on it, the full picture is of me and my kids...

Amy Austin | November 3, 2004
Oh, wow -- holy cow! It's CRAZY how different people can look from one photo to the next!!! Cute little Ram family you got there, Mike!

Mike Eberhart | November 3, 2004
Thanks Amy. I thought it was a pretty funny picture.

Lori Lancaster | November 3, 2004
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Mike Eberhart | November 3, 2004
Thanks Lori.. Yeah, the difference between my two pictures is about 30 pounds... In the right direction.... :) Plus a little more gray on the sides. But that's about it.

Scott Horowitz | November 3, 2004
I also think Mike (don't take this the wrong way, it is not meant to be insulting) this picture and pose make you come off softer than your previous pic.

John E Gunter | November 3, 2004
It's having the kids sitting on his lap, honest. Oh and he's smiling in this one. ;-)

All the new pictures look good by the way and Amy and Todd, nice to see something other than that big ?.

Course that's better than what I use for my missing picture image. Go to the link below to see...

(link)

John

Jackie Mason | November 3, 2004
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Amy Austin | November 3, 2004
Well, thank you, Jackie ;D (I won't be hurt if you were talking to Mike, though...;>)

Jackie Mason | November 3, 2004
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Jackie Mason | November 3, 2004
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Erik Bates | November 4, 2004
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Steve Dunn | November 4, 2004
Wow, some of y'all must have been using some old pictures!! I'm tempted to submit a new photo just to keep things interesting. I'll poke around a bit...

Amy Austin | November 4, 2004
Jackie -- Thank you! I was wondering about your info, too... you said you really liked your current job, and when I saw that I thought, "that can't be right!" ;>P

Erik -- heeheehee... is that said like Butthead's "hey, baby"? :-DDD

Todd Brotsch | November 4, 2004
huhhhhhuuhhuhhhh

Come to Butthead

Amy Austin | November 4, 2004
LOLOLOLOL -- I hope that Erik doesn't think I'm saying that he looks like "Butthead"... but it's just so funny next to his picture: "hey baby" ;DDD

Mike Eberhart | November 4, 2004
Jackie, Thanks if that last reference was to me... I agree that the pictures on here have vastly improved...

Scott Horowitz | November 4, 2004
Geeze, it sounds like we should have a picture beauty contest... hehehe

Mike Eberhart | November 4, 2004
Sounds like fun.... :)

Scott Hardie | November 4, 2004
If Mike wins, he has to strike the pose from the Community Chest card where Mr. Moneybags wins $10 in the beauty contest.

Amy Austin | November 4, 2004
Yes! I'm voting for Mike!!!

Mike Eberhart | November 4, 2004
I'll have to find that card in my monopoly game. I don't remember what that pose looks like. :)

Mike Eberhart | November 4, 2004
Oh, and thanks for the vote Amy....

Amy Austin | November 4, 2004
heeheehee... my pleasure, Mike!

Anthony Lewis | November 4, 2004
Somebody say "beauty contest"?

Just look at my suit/

Amy Austin | November 4, 2004
(singing) "You're so vain... you probably think this thread is about you..."

;DDDDDDDDD

Anthony Lewis | November 4, 2004
This is what you call, "Gangster Glam".

Amy Austin | November 4, 2004
You look like a smooth criminal to me, Anthony!

Scott Hardie | November 4, 2004
You look to me like a guy in need of some contrast correction. I'll see what Photoshop can do.

Anthony Lewis | November 4, 2004
Excuse me while I grab my stuff, spin around and "Shamone".

Amy Austin | November 4, 2004
Oh yeah, that's better, Scott! hehehehe -- Anthony, what does "Shamone" mean anyway (I have always wondered that -- am I missing something, or what?, and how do you know how it's spelled? Does it appear in his album endsheets???

Lori Lancaster | November 4, 2004
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Erik Bates | November 4, 2004
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Lori Lancaster | November 4, 2004
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Jackie Mason | November 4, 2004
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Mike Eberhart | November 4, 2004
Well, I'm glad you liked my picture...

Anthony Lewis | November 4, 2004
Jackie: Thank U **striking poses**

Lori: Thank U **striking more poses**

Amy : Thank U **Do a spin, then a 70's split come up and scream like Prince**

My ego has been stroked for the next few days.

I Googled "Shamone" and so much crap came up, I said "Forget it."

John E Gunter | November 4, 2004
Hey Anthony, is that scream like Prince because you're good, or you've broken something? ;-)

John

Amy Austin | November 4, 2004
HAHAHAHA -- I got the SPLIT... WOO HOO! Sweet...

Yeah, I never would have thought to try and spell it before, but then, I don't think I've ever had reason to write it before, either... For some reason, though (maybe it's my French language training), I want to say that it's just a weird pronunciation of "C'mon!", "Charm On", or perhaps "Charmin"... ;DDD Since he seems to grab his crotch every time he says it, maybe this is actually it... he's checking to see if the TP stuffing's still holding up: "OW... Charmin!" (I guess Michael prefers 2-ply, too?)

John E Gunter | November 4, 2004
[quote](I guess Michael prefers 2-ply, too?)[/quote]

ROFLMAO

That is just too funny Amy! Since I giggle and laugh at work anyway, I'm safe from my co-workers thinking there's something wrong with me but that was just too much!

John

Lori Lancaster | November 4, 2004
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Amy Austin | November 4, 2004
(big cheesy satisfied grin)

Anthony Lewis | November 4, 2004
John. I'm not limber by any means, so I guess I scream because I'm about to have an emergency room visit. :-)

John E Gunter | November 4, 2004
Don't worry Anthony, I only laughed because I'd be right there beside you, accept I'd probably be a little lower to the ground because I think you might be able to get off the ground, while I'd probably still be there in a puddle. :-D

John

Anthony Lewis | November 4, 2004
HAHAHAHA

Jackie Mason | November 5, 2004
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Lori Lancaster | November 5, 2004
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Jackie Mason | November 5, 2004
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Mike Eberhart | November 5, 2004
Is being 25 a bad thing? I wish I was 25 again... I'm going to turn 31 next month... :(

Amy Austin | November 5, 2004
Yeah... I thought you *were* 25, Jackie! Or 24... 23? ;>)

I know just how you feel, too -- for some reason 25 an was especially traumatic birthday for me... I don't really know why, either. But it made me very scared of the future, because if I handled that so badly, how was it going to be to turn 30, 35, 40... you get the picture! Oddly enough, 30 wasn't the big deal that I thought it might be. And 31 didn't seem too bad, either. I'm turning 32 right after you, Mike, and now I'm starting to think "thirtysomething"... which, in turn, sounds so close to fortysomething. (Sigh) It's a ridiculous obsession, really... why are we so bothered by being "old"? Is it really the age thing, or is it just the unshakable feeling that we haven't yet accomplished whatever it is that we came here for? I think it's the latter.

(And I wish I were 25 again, too!)

Todd Brotsch | November 5, 2004
Time is the fire in which we burn.

Mike Eberhart | November 5, 2004
Yeah, turning 30 really wasn't that big a deal for me. It's just now, I'm ever so close to 40. Still probably won't be that big a deal. Amy I wouldn't have guessed you were the same age as me, I would have definately guessed younger. Somewhere in the 25-28 range.

Scott Horowitz | November 5, 2004
Todd, Do you have a movie quote for every and all situations? BTW, that's from ST: Generations.

Lori Lancaster | November 5, 2004
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Todd Brotsch | November 5, 2004
You know, it's like a gift or something. It's like I can't control it.

Scott Horowitz | November 5, 2004
(sigh) Girl Next Door .

Amy Austin | November 5, 2004
Ooo ooh -- I know that one, Todd... "Bladerunner"! (And I just happened to have watched it... again... recently!)

Shit, did I get that wrong? It was ol' Malcom McDowell, wasn't it...? Well, you can see how I might have made the mistake -- although, now I'm wondering if it isn't from *both*...

Amy Austin | November 5, 2004
heeheehee -- I think it's cool, and I agree with Lori... but sometimes, when you're at home, you just have to!

Thanks, Mike -- I'm flattered, if you're basing that solely on my picture! ;>)

Steve West | November 5, 2004
Nerd Girl - "I can't help it. It's in my blood."
Supposedly Cool Guy - "Yeah, sort of like a birth defect."
Or something close to that from Weird Science

Todd Brotsch | November 5, 2004
Darling, you look absolutly marvelous.

Mike Eberhart | November 6, 2004
Well yes, Amy, that picture is all I have to go off of. So, that's where my initial perception came from.

Jackie Mason | November 6, 2004
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Amy Austin | November 6, 2004
Yep, probably so...

Mike, sorry if that seemed like a dumb thing to say -- there was conversation before there was picture, and I thought maybe your initial perception came from that... but either way, it's flattering.

Lori Lancaster | November 6, 2004
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Scott Horowitz | November 7, 2004
I'm 25. People tell me that I can act anywhere from 6 to 47. I've been told I look in my mid thirties. Damn, early halr loss.

Todd Brotsch | November 7, 2004
That's what happens when you spend too much time with your head in the bowling ball waxer.

Amy Austin | November 7, 2004
Damn, that's fucked up, Todd... you guys are harsh!

Scott Horowitz | November 7, 2004
Hey, the shine-o-ball-o rox0rz

Lori Lancaster | November 7, 2004
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Amy Austin | November 7, 2004
I didn't think you were older than 30, Scott -- and I knew a guy in college with less hair than you at 19!!! He kind of had that Anthony Edwards (now, not then) look, but he took it all in stride. He was a good guy, with a great sense of humor (as you seem to be) -- and it's amazing how much that can compensate for... including a little bit of hair!

Todd Brotsch | November 7, 2004
It's a Simpsons thing...I'm pretty sure he got it ;)


GOOSE!!!! NOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Steve Dunn | November 8, 2004
I sent Scott a new photo today. It's a little newer than my original one, which was taken about 18 months ago. The new one was taken about seven or eight months ago. I was sitting at the bar at the Mellow Mushroom. My wife just picked up the camera and took my picture. I didn't know what she was doing so I didn't even smile. I think it's a decent shot, except for my too-short haircut. I was just in the process of breaking in a new barber, and he'd just cut my hair WAY too short. He's got it down now, but the short hair is what you'll have to look at, at least for a little while...

Steve Dunn | November 8, 2004
Aha - I see the new photo is not yet in effect!! Scott, did you get my email?

Scott Hardie | November 8, 2004
Fixed.

Steve Dunn | November 8, 2004
Hmm, in the full photo I look sensitive and thoughtful, which is how I felt at the time (sensitive and thoughtful plus hungover, if I recall correctly...)

In the cropped version, I look like I'm pissed or smirking.

Both are appropriate looks, I guess.

Amy Austin | November 8, 2004
heeheehee -- I had the same thoughts, Steve... like it could go either way, and your short hair is kind of punkish, which lends itself to the "pissed or smirking" ;>) (I like both of your pics, though!) Hey, and I just saw that you were born 9 days after I was -- thought that was kinda' cool...

Steve Dunn | November 8, 2004
January 1973, baby!! It was a good year.

My too-short hair is pretty far from punk. It's closer to black, actually. I started going to a black barbershop that opened in my neighborhood around the time that photo was taken. It's kind of a long story... I work with a group that promotes the local business district... we publish a business directory... the barbershop bought an ad in the directory and as I was taking his check the owner told me I needed to come in for a haircut. I looked at him, looked around, and said "You cut white hair?" He insisted that they did, black, white, blue, purple, whatever. So I came in and had Dion cut my hair a couple times. He was overly aggressive with the clippers the first few times, but now I've got him trained up right.

I'm always the token white guy in this place. It's kinda funny - all the barbers know me so we kid around while the other customers sit there looking like, "Who is THAT guy?" Several weeks ago they were playing a dog fighting video (the week before that it had been a bootleg copy of Fahrenheit 9/11). The dig fight video was pretty gruesome, so at one point one of the barbers came over to me and asked if I was offended by the video, as though he was offering to turn it off. I said no, I had no problem with it. It struck me as hilarious that in a room full of 30 people, including children, this barber thought "the white guy" might get offended by the video.

Anyway, it's a cultural experience. Anyway, the too-short hair is less Johnny Rotten than Vanilla Ice.

Dion's got me figured out now, though.

Amy Austin | November 8, 2004
"...black, white, blue, purple, whatever."

Sounds punk to me! ;D And Johnny Rotten's not the only style to choose from, but you're right -- kind of Vanilla Ice, for sure... ;DDD Glad they've gotten it down right for ya'!

Your "token white guy" anecdote reminds me of E's haircut experiences at the local (predominantly Mexican) barbershop... ;DDDDDDDDD And even though you weren't bothered by it, it was rather considerate of them to ask you about the dog-fighting -- that would have bothered *me* a whole lot. I hate that it seems to be a "sport" favored by some minority cultures... and I have a lot of problems with it.

Anna Gregoline | November 8, 2004
I couldn't have watched the dog fight thing either - but I probably wouldn't have asked them to turn it off.

Amy Austin | November 8, 2004
Not even if they offered?

Anna Gregoline | November 8, 2004
Wouldn't that be the exact opposite of asking them?

Amy Austin | November 8, 2004
Geez, Anna -- you are impossible.

Anna Gregoline | November 8, 2004
I was just asking a question? What the heck?

Amy Austin | November 8, 2004
Well, it kind of looks to me like either you're playing dumb so that we can't have a polite conversation, or you just didn't read Steve's post very carefully... either way, you answered a question with a question, and I'm not going to play that game. I thought you had already claimed that you don't "nitpick over everything" -- what kind of a question is that, but an invitation to argue? Apologies if I'm mistaken.

Anna Gregoline | November 8, 2004
Amy, this is totally weird.

Can I not say anything now? Your question honestly didn't make any sense to me.

"The dig fight video was pretty gruesome, so at one point one of the barbers came over to me and asked if I was offended by the video, as though he was offering to turn it off."

As though...he didn't actually offer. So what I was saying was, I would have been upset about the dog fighting video like you - but I probably would have not asked that it be turned off. If the guy actually offered, which he didn't, I probably wouldn't have asked that he turn it off either.

And why the attack? I didn't do anything wrong once more. What is your problem with me? Please stop treating me as if I am attacking you with every comment.

Steve Dunn | November 8, 2004
I think I should clarify about the dog fighting video. It was a documentary about dog fighting, not a show with actual dog fights. It was bothering plenty of people in the barbershop - pretty much everyone was recoiling at the most graphic parts, commenting about how messed up it was, etc.

Usually they play music, usually old school rap. Deion and I are both amateur singers, so the day they played an old Michael Jackson album, we entertained everyone by harmonizing on "mama say mama sah ma-ma ku sah."

On the other subject, I think one major disadvantage of the internet is that emotion and intention are rarely adequately conveyed via the written word. Sarcasm almost never comes through quite right.

Anna Gregoline | November 9, 2004
I just think that if, for example, ScottieHo had made the same comment I did, he wouldn't have gotten such a violent response.

In that case, Steve, I would have been very interested in the video and what it could tell me, as I know nothing about dog fighting.

Scott Horowitz | November 9, 2004
Woah, there missey. Don't bring my pristine name down the shitter with you? hehehehe.

I think you 2 just read too much into what each other is saying. It seems Amy is acting rather proactive, while Anna is acting very reactive (hehehe, couldn't resist) Both of you just relax, and stop biting the other's head off. Or I'm going to have to bitchsmack both of you, and we all know how much I love a good bitchsmacking.

(So, I don't get yelled at) I am kidding.

Why don't we get a global thing going? we use strikethru to show sarcasm from now on? something to that fact

David Mitzman | November 9, 2004
scott ho, i hate you so much. notice the absence of the strikethrough. :-P

Scott Horowitz | November 9, 2004
OH DIP!

Jackie Mason | November 10, 2004
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Scott Horowitz | November 10, 2004
Anyone else think that Todd looks like Elwood Blues after a few margaritas? Who's with me?

Amy Austin | November 10, 2004
heeheehee... after *you've* had a few margaritas, or he has, Scott??? (Either way, I'll second that one!)

Todd Brotsch | November 10, 2004
We're puttin da band back together.

I've already got the six tats, you can be jake.


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