Erik Bates | January 7, 2005
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Anna Gregoline | January 7, 2005
Dude, I don't appeciate you asking me that, and before you tell me my favorite color is pink, let me tell you it is NOT, it is a deep maroon color.

Amy Austin | January 7, 2005
Well, ironically (or not so much), pink *was* always my favorite... but it's evolved into purple and its family over the years.

Mike Eberhart | January 7, 2005
First let me say that I HATE Pink, and if you like PINK, then I hate you too.... There I said it...

Of course, I hope you all catch my sarcasm... My real favorite color is Blue and most shades of blue. For colors on vehicles though, I have to go with White. I love White cars/trucks. I'm in the process of stripping and re-painting my truck and I'm going to re-spray it Metallic White.

Anna Gregoline | January 7, 2005
My parents always avoided white cars cause they complained about having to wash them all the time. I think my favorite car color is still maroonish, but I like metallic green too, if it's not too bright.

Scott Horowitz | January 7, 2005
I find this topic prejudice to all color blind people (myself included). Therefore, I will not enter into this conversation.

Jackie Mason | January 7, 2005
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Amy Austin | January 7, 2005
Quite all right, Mike -- I really hate pink haters... and blue lovers... and most of all... definitely white car lovers!!! ;DDDDD

Actually, despite the fact that we have one, that last part is kind of true... it's just that it's so hard to maintain that pristine white. I'm actually not at all sure what color I like best for cars. Never thought myself a red car person, either, but my truck is because E bought it for me. And I've grown to love it, quite honestly -- even though it's like begging to be pulled over. Black, too (about being pulled over, not my preference). E prefers yellow, the crazy -- yellow ought to be called "HELLO, I'm here!" on cars... great for coppers and *definitely* not my color of choice.

Amy Austin | January 7, 2005
I hate being a slow typist.

Denise Sawicki | January 7, 2005
I have an icky looking white car but if I was picking just on the basis of color I would pick a shiny royal blue. The blue at the top of the sky on a clear day is the best color, perhaps since I see it so rarely. My parents seem to be bigger blue fanatics than I am. Just about everything on their clothesline is blue or white. I tend to go for more variations in color in my clothes, bright colors and stuff though it probably does not suit my ulra-pale complexion. :P My dryer lint is sort of mauve or lavender, how about yours?

Jackie Mason | January 7, 2005
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Amy Austin | January 7, 2005
Hahaha -- my lint is usually that color, too, Denise... unless I'm doing jeans or whites.

I used to have a 280Z 2+2 that I was madly in love with -- a mercy present from my father (although I considered it more of a loan and wanted to give it back to him when I headed to boot camp... except I totaled it first -- D'AARRGGHHH!) -- it was a real matte gray... like primer, but I think it was just an oxidized gray. But I wanted to have it painted, as a present to my dad for letting me have it (I think he really liked it a lot, too), and I was going to choose a nice deep barely metallic blue for it... I would have known the color when I saw it, but that was what I thought the car wanted to be -- that, or just silver.

I still have glass fragments from the shattered driver's window. The really crushing part is that I had only paid a fraction of the cost ($200 of about $800) to fix the engine head and replace the gasket that I blew. Faulty thermostat didn't tell me that I was overheating as I played "Speed Racer" with a... Mustang, I think it was (that was half a dozen years ago) on 441 in Florida. So, I had to have my former roommate take my first Navy paycheck money to my mechanic for a car that I had killed. Took me a long time to get over that -- I *loved* that car.

Amy Austin | January 7, 2005
Too slow again!

Mike Eberhart | January 7, 2005
Right now my truck is Part white, and Part lime green... The cab is patchy White and mostly Lime green Etch Primer. The entire bed is still white as I haven't started on that section yet. Painting a truck takes a long time......:(

Lori Lancaster | January 7, 2005
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Scott Hardie | January 14, 2005
Mike, Scott, Amy, and especially Anna for starting it, thanks for a great laugh. :-)

As I've probably said many times, my laundry is entirely black, except for the underwear. It's hard for find black underwear for men unless it's sexy, and they don't make sexy underwear in my size for a reason, not that I'd buy it if they did. Ahem. Despite only wearing black, my favorite color is actually dark green, aka forest green, and I refuse to call it kelly green for reasons I need not explain.

Kris Weberg | January 14, 2005
Color preference is just an ideological trick played upon us by corporatist culture. Essentially, the creation of a notion of color preference allows for the sale of identical items to different market segments based solely on an immediate, superficial aspect that doesn't affect product performance at all. In addition, as we've seen in this thread, color preference and gender stereotyping go hand in hand.

Anyway, I guess I'm trying to say that I like navy and cerulean blue a lot.

Anna Gregoline | January 14, 2005
It sure does - one of my relatives went with my sister when they bought the tricycle for my niece - my sister picked out the primary color one, and the relative pointed out there was a pink and purple one! My sister was horrified that they even made them that way, and flat out refused to change her mind. Why be gender specific on something like a tricycle?

Anthony Lewis | January 14, 2005
Right now, my fav color is Lavender and all variations.

Pale violet. Lilac. Light purple. Whatever.

I found out that I look good in a lavender shirt, coupled with a black tie with tiny white polka dots. I wish I had taken a pic that night, because damn I looked good.

Erik Bates | January 14, 2005
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Anna Gregoline | January 14, 2005
She was horrified at the suggestion that she buy that one instead of the primary color she already picked out.

Anna Gregoline | January 14, 2005
P.S. My niece is almost 2 - she doesn't have a favorite color yet, as most kids that age probably don't, I'm assuming.

Jackie Mason | January 14, 2005
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Anna Gregoline | January 14, 2005
She was reacting to the idea that they needed to make a tryke gender specific...like a barely two year old should be given the "girl" tryke if it was a girl, etc.

I'm obviously not explaining this really well.

Denise Sawicki | January 14, 2005
Or you could get the pink and purple tricycle for a boy and maybe he would be the coolest little boy on the block. Apparently it's cool for boys to wear pink and purple now. It's the whole metrosexual thing. I saw they had a male mannequin dressed in a pink cable-knit sweater in a "cool" store last time I was at the mall...

Anna Gregoline | January 14, 2005
True enough. I have to agree with her on the gender typing on objects that need not have them - I mean, a tricycle?!?! That's for all kids, regardless of gender.

The real objection is when it goes to extremes - parents that couldn't possibly have their boy have a pink toy, for example, or let him have a doll - or couldn't possibly let their girl play with a truck. I find it silly, but I know that it happens all the time.

Amy Austin | January 14, 2005
While I do agree that gender/product stereotyping such as Kris and Anna are talking about is nauseating, I disagree that my preferences were foisted upon me by the corporate culture... It's not like I didn't know that "blue" was an option for me growing up -- in fact, I knew many a girl who did indeed prefer it! But it's kind of like the whole feminist split -- women who *prefer* to be wives/homemakers being frowned upon by those looking for cultural change en masse -- why do they need to punish those who *like* being "mainstream"??? The assumption is that these people cannot think for themselves. And maybe -- just maybe -- they can't, but who are we to assume? I'm 32 years old now, and I still like pink/purple. I eat some things and shun some things that I did not as a child. I think I'm well past being over the initial brainwashing/indoctrination that may or may not have taken place.

Erik Bates | January 14, 2005
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Anna Gregoline | January 15, 2005
I never meant that your personal preferences were foisted upon you by the corporate culture. I'm talking about others making those choices for you before you had free will to change.

The point is that I think we should all be free to make those distinctions and choices - telling a little boy he can't play with a doll, for example, strikes me as truely bizarre, as you'd probably agree with. The fact that my relative felt my niece should definitely have the pink and purple tryke simply because she's a girl is an example of that strange stereotyping. If my niece turns out liking pink and purple, great! I don't care if she's the girliest girl that ever girled! But I want it to be because that's who she is, not because that's who others think she should be.

And...NONE of the feminists I know would EVER look down on a woman for being a homemaker, provided that was her choice and not a mandate from someone else.

Amy Austin | January 15, 2005
That's good.

Kris Weberg | January 15, 2005
The weird part was, I was really just trying to spoof myself.

Anna Gregoline | January 15, 2005
It sure is, Amy, it sure is.

Erik Bates | January 15, 2005
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Amy Austin | January 15, 2005
I get it, Kris -- you like blue -- I get it. [rolling eyes]

Kris Weberg | January 15, 2005
Last time I make a joke here.

Scott Hardie | January 15, 2005
Geez, you'd think the name of the forum would be a tip-off.

Amy Austin | January 15, 2005
I didn't say that it wasn't a funny joke. But it wasn't completely apparent, and I definitely should learn not to follow suit when some people get serious.

Scott Hardie | January 15, 2005
Actually, I was just joking. And I think Kris was too. But maybe you're joking now, so the joke is on us. I give up.

Amy Austin | January 15, 2005
Me too. Guess this is why mimes aren't that funny...

Erik Bates | January 15, 2005
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Lori Lancaster | January 16, 2005
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Anna Gregoline | January 17, 2005
My niece doesn't have any problem with pink or purple, so she'd probably like it fine. They just don't want to gender-type her. Her room is a soft green. Her "special friend" toy is a dog called "Purple Dog" actually, so I guess she likes purple fine.

Does she like everything with wings? I'm seeing a trend.

Lori Lancaster | January 17, 2005
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Amy Austin | January 17, 2005
Yeah, it's like these people are trying to tell you that you're not allowed to be selective about your preferences. Like what -- she was *forced* to have all of those things??? Most kids I know of generally get *what they ask for* in the way of toys & such... that's what I can't stand about this idea! But while I've never known anybody to rip boy toys/activities away from their girls, I think that there's still plenty of folks out there who would get a little bothered by their boy playing with "Barbie" -- it just goes to show that there's always a greater fear of boys "going gay"!

Jackie Mason | January 17, 2005
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Amy Austin | January 17, 2005
I very much doubt it, too, Jackie -- but that doesn't mean that someone else out there doesn't...

Anna Gregoline | January 17, 2005
"Yeah, it's like these people are trying to tell you that you're not allowed to be selective about your preferences. Like what -- she was *forced* to have all of those things??? Most kids I know of generally get *what they ask for* in the way of toys & such... that's what I can't stand about this idea!"

Yes, but you say "generally." The people we are talking about aren't the general public -they're the people who ARE denying their girl a toy car if she wants it - and getting her a doll she doesn't want. At least that's what I'm talking about.

Amy Austin | January 17, 2005
So what are you suggesting then, Anna? Toy aisle police for that aberrant minority of the "general public" who want to force-feed gender stereotypes to their children?

I don't know how I can demonstrate to you when I *do* understand what you're talking about and that I *am* in agreement with you...

Jackie Mason | January 17, 2005
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Erik Bates | January 17, 2005
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Anna Gregoline | January 17, 2005
I'm not suggesting anything! You seem to be getting all bent out of shape about my comment about the gender typing and as far as I can tell, we're in agreement again! Right!??!?

Amy Austin | January 17, 2005
(yawn) ...moving along now...

Anna Gregoline | January 18, 2005
Whew, thank GOD.

Glad to see you must think this arguing is boring too.

Jackie Mason | January 18, 2005
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Lori Lancaster | January 18, 2005
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Anna Gregoline | January 18, 2005
Spring wedding! Lovely. Someone was just describing to me a spring wedding with pale pink and light green as the colors...

Jackie Mason | January 18, 2005
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Dave Stoppenhagen | January 18, 2005
Jaime and I got married in May, she chose calla lilies that had a pink tint ((link) to them. The bridesmaids wore these dark purple dress's

I think it was darker than that

Anna Gregoline | January 18, 2005
Beautiful!

Dave Stoppenhagen | January 18, 2005
Jackie try the knot (link) My wife used it for planning the wedding and oriental trade (link) for the table gifts.

Dave Stoppenhagen | January 18, 2005
Back to the original topic - Blue

Amy Austin | January 18, 2005
Deja vu...

Hey, Jackie... just a suggestion here, but I think a much better idea is to have 3 different dresses in the same color -- that way, your "maids" can pick out complementary dresses that suit each of their unique personalities (and figures!), and you can still break up the monotony of 3 gay dresses without something as difficult (and distracting) as 3 different colors... and pale pink sounds like a great choice to do that!

Jackie Mason | January 18, 2005
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Erik Bates | January 19, 2005
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Erik Bates | January 19, 2005
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Lori Lancaster | January 20, 2005
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Kris Weberg | January 20, 2005
"I wear black on the outside,
'Cause black is how I feel on the inside,
And if I seem a little strange,
Well, that's because I am." -- The Smiths

Anna Gregoline | January 20, 2005
Gah, Kris, always ready with a Smiths reference!

Erik Bates | January 20, 2005
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John E Gunter | January 20, 2005
Saphire Blue!

John

Jackie Mason | January 20, 2005
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